Monday, April 5, 2010

A Response to Cobra's Oil Lovefest

So Cobra and I got into it this morning about Oil... he wasn't born in a lame country that has been SCREWED by the devil's excrement, so he was giving me his american manifest destiny speech.  BUT, it was rather good... here's the excerpt:


Cobra: sometimes these price movements are meaningless
  its difficult to attribute reasons to them
  pundits and talking heads try to
  but that's only to keep their jobs - they have to
10:53 AM no one wants a news caster who says "stocks moved around randomly today for no real good reason"
  so who knows
  i mean honestly, there isn't that much oil in the atlantic
  sizeable amounts, sure, but its not going to upset the global order that much
10:54 AM its more a boon to those state's economies than it is a real market shifter
  i really need to just invest in some oil exploration stocks
  i've been intending to for like months
  they've been on my radar CONSTANTLY
  i just didn't quite trust them... because they were oil
  dude
  i reacted the same way as YOU
  gahhh
  see how fear influences you?
  and this is despite knowing... KNOWING
  that oil consumption will continue to grow
  and thus, so too must oil EXPLORATION
10:55 AM we need to keep finding and drilling new wells, and even though we feel or fear that somehow that has to end someday
  the fact of the matter is its not going to any time soon
 Black Mamba: sigh
  im JUST btw reading your post on oil
  thank you for the shout out
  this is a great way to start a conversation on blog ;)
10:56 AM sigh, i mean i guess you're right
  but the thing is.. which i argue
  i understand that oil is still there and will be for a while (NOT good news for venezuela)
10:57 AM i dont wanna be paying for their shit
  if oil is involved in the damn plastic bottle that i drink water out of
  sure, awesome
  but i resent high gas prices a lot
  like A LOT
 Cobra: most oil is...
 Black Mamba: it cannot be
 Cobra: do you have any idea how much plastic we use?
  as a society
  look it up
 Black Mamba: that at one point, gas was my biggest expense
  I KNOW
 Cobrafor YOU
 Black Mamba: which again, i understand
 Cobra: but most oil becomes plastic i think
10:58 AM Black Mamba: we should look that up
  but im pretty sure
  the biggest reason for exxon's profit doesnt come from plastic
  because i argue that gas is a much more lucrative part of oil use
  think about it
 Cobra: we can easily figure this out
 Black Mamba: oil has a monopoly on transportation energy!!!!!!!!!
10:59 AM nobody can compete with GAS
  it's GAS
  it drives our cars, airplanes, motorcycles
  even our vespas!
  haha
  the whole transportation system is dependent on oil
  that's fucked up
  i dont agree with that
11:00 AM therein lies my hate for oil IN AMERICA
  cause we're not even gonna go into my hate for oil in venezuela
11:01 AM Cobra: i mean sure
  oil is the only thing that has the energy content PLUS easy transportability right now
  lots of people feel like you
  hence the research into other forms of energy
  look at batteries for instance
11:02 AM hybrid cars are really propelling some amazing research into batteries
  which right now are one of the few really viable competitors to oil
  and after looking at exxon's annual report from this past february
  if you expand "gasoline" to include things like jet fuel and other petroleum derived products
  you're right
11:03 AM and you're right about the energy monopoly
  still, just because the resource has a monopoly doesn't mean that the industry is one
 Black Mamba: ehem
 Cobra: its not their fault that there's no other easily available cheap and flexible fuel source
 Black Mamba: i mean sure
  but
11:04 AM there is a monopoly nonetheless
  and i believe in opportunity
 Cobra: by who, exactly?
 Black Mamba: but now tell me
  would the industry REALLY like oil to stop being the monopoly over transportation energy?
  sure it wasnt their fault that their product is the only one out there to turn on a car
  but..
 Cobra: obviously not
  but they clearly see the writing on the wall
  look at their ads
 Black Mamba: you know their lobbies are buying up congressmen to inhibit growth of other shit
11:05 AM Cobra: energy companies are advertising how they're investigating cleaner solutions
 Black Mamba: yeah and everytime i look at those ads i laugh at them
 Cobra: they're getting behind clean energy
 Black Mamba: who do they think I AM to fool me
 Cobra: on some level, they have to
 Black Mamba: no they're not!
 Cobra: public opinion wouldn't support them otherwise
  yes they are
 Black Mamba: this is them trying to repair their image
 Cobra: they need to make oil cleaner if its going to remain competitive
 Black Mamba: i guess
 Cobra: they aren't fools
 Black Mamba: but
 Cobra: so they're doing like mcdonalds did
 Black Mamba: that's not gonna solve the problem
 Cobra: remember when mcdonalds rebranded itself?
 Black Mamba: the problem is they NEED COMPETITION
11:06 AM Cobra: from greasy fast food shit to awesome high class shit?
  that's like... healthy?
 Black Mamba: yeah and rebranding only has made it so that people go THERE MORE
 Cobra: it seemed so NOT mcdonalds 3-4 years ago
 Black Mamba: doesnt break THEIR monopoly on fast food
 Cobra: but like
  after awhile, it did become mcdonalds
  just watch... a company like exxon or BP isn't going to just lay down and die
  they're energy companies
  oil is still important
  and will continue to be
  but so are other methods
  and those companies are investigating those methods
  they want to get their first
11:07 AM because they KNOW
  whoever comes up with SUPER oil
  e.g. some easily transportable fuel source that has high energy content but is CLEAN and SUSTAINABLE
  that person will become ludicrously wealthy
 Black Mamba: well
  they already know brazil and other places are coming up with good ideas
  although ethanol here involves corn, ugh
11:08 AM but sigh
 Cobra: dude
  don't hate things just because you think the industries are evil
  corn is kinda awesome
  and so is oil
  the resource isn't evil

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